The Republican Party is Dead

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The Republican Party is Dead

Post by scarletknight » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:30 am

There is no Republican Party any more. There is just the Trump Party. Its platform: fealty to Donald J. Trump, and retaining power at any cost.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by Dr. Hackenbush » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:34 am

For the last 40+ years the Democratic and Republican parties have been operating synergisticly alternating who is in Socialist power over the US. The Republican Party was much more of a "lazi-faire" Democratic Socialist government, while the Democratic Party was much more power hungry and drifting more and more toward a Communist Socialist government. But both were Socialist, that is they wanted the government to control, or have the ability to control, every aspect of our lives. Under Socialism you can only do what the Government allows you to do. Hopefully that Republican Party, the party of the Bush's, McCain, Romney, etc. is DEAD. The US Constitution was framed around INDIVIDUAL rights and responsibility. You can do pretty much what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. Trump put the (temporary) brakes on the Democrats seizure of totalitarian control of the Government, making the Constitution null and void. It is only the Party of Trump because he exposed the Democratic and Republican parties for what they actually were. More importantly, the Democratic Party has no real agenda that they can sell to the majority of Americans. If they expose their true desire to assume neo-Marxist control and destroy the Constitution, they would have only the fringe Left voting for them. By keeping Trump as the "evil Dragon", it gives them something that they campaign on and look like they are doing something noble and not reveal their true motives! **==
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by ShyDaniel » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:37 pm

When was the last time we had a Republican who was actually a conservative? Some how being a conservative turned into nothing but stances on abortion, guns, and gay marriage. There is never talk about spending anymore. Trump's federal budget was bigger than Obama's. For all his "drain the swamp" bullsh!t, all he did was make the swamp bigger. He lowered taxes, which is good, but the real "tax" is what they spend - not what they take out of our checks. We still owe that money. Now with interest. Even before the covid stimulus, he outspent the guy that came before him! How the hell does that qualify him as being a republican or conservative?? Shouldn't he lose his membership card because of that and that alone?

If we end up with a 1 party system we are screwed. I think we're headed towards some very scary inflation regardless.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by vorlon » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:10 pm

Dr. Hackenbush wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:34 am
For the last 40+ years the Democratic and Republican parties have been operating synergisticly alternating who is in Socialist power over the US. The Republican Party was much more of a "lazi-faire" Democratic Socialist government, while the Democratic Party was much more power hungry and drifting more and more toward a Communist Socialist government. But both were Socialist, that is they wanted the government to control, or have the ability to control, every aspect of our lives. Under Socialism you can only do what the Government allows you to do. Hopefully that Republican Party, the party of the Bush's, McCain, Romney, etc. is DEAD. The US Constitution was framed around INDIVIDUAL rights and responsibility. You can do pretty much what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on someone else's rights. Trump put the (temporary) brakes on the Democrats seizure of totalitarian control of the Government, making the Constitution null and void. It is only the Party of Trump because he exposed the Democratic and Republican parties for what they actually were. More importantly, the Democratic Party has no real agenda that they can sell to the majority of Americans. If they expose their true desire to assume neo-Marxist control and destroy the Constitution, they would have only the fringe Left voting for them. By keeping Trump as the "evil Dragon", it gives them something that they campaign on and look like they are doing something noble and not reveal their true motives! **==
Seriously? Trump spent his entire presidency arguing there were virtually no limits on what he could do and that he couldn't be held accountable for any of his numerous misdeeds. He attacked our democratic institutions at every turn. He tried to blackmail another country to manufacture a scandal on his chief rival. He sought to undermine the integrity of the election. When that failed, he tried every maneuver, legal and otherwise, to steal the election, culminating in an attempted coup. Claiming that you support democracy and support Trump is pure doublespeak.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by Dr. Hackenbush » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:10 am

Shy
That is why I hate the terms "conservative" and "liberal". I look at who wants to keep the US running on a Constitutional basis. That is, the power is in the people. Your Home runs Socialist. Your parents set the rules and you could only do what they allowed you to! Now, if you are a parent, you set the rules for your family. As you move up to City - County - State government these institutions should have less control over your day-to-day actions. At the National level the Government should be sure that the states "work and play well with others", coordinate activities between states, perform function that the states individually can't, e.g. national defense, international dealings, etc. To me that person is a Conservative. They are "conserving" the Constitutional form of government. Too often it now means "tight purse strings" or espousing puritanical ethical values. **== **== **==
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by shyboy69 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:29 pm

You guys are all failing to understand that government is not your friend. Is strictly out for it's self. And is doing nothing to serve its constituents. Our constitutional rights are trampled on daily. And the average following sheep are ok with that.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by vorlon » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:03 am

shyboy69 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:29 pm
You guys are all failing to understand that government is not your friend. Is strictly out for it's self. And is doing nothing to serve its constituents. Our constitutional rights are trampled on daily. And the average following sheep are ok with that.
No. The problems with the government are due to the poor choices the voters make.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by scarletknight » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:41 pm

The Republican Party is still dead.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by vorlon » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:32 pm

scarletknight wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:41 pm
The Republican Party is still dead.
I'd say undead. They move and make noise but they aren't anything like they used to be.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by scarletknight » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:55 pm

vorlon wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:32 pm
scarletknight wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:41 pm
The Republican Party is still dead.
I'd say undead. They move and make noise but they aren't anything like they used to be.
That's not the Republican Party. That's the Trump Party.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by YAG » Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:45 am

The cowards in the Senate have killed any Republican's chance of getting my vote for the foreseeable future.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by Faromir » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:04 am

YAG - I would amend your statement with one added word:
YAG wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:45 am
The hypocritical cowards in the Senate have killed any Republican's chance of getting my vote for the foreseeable future.

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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by YAG » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:42 pm

Faromir wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:04 am
YAG - I would amend your statement with one added word:
YAG wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:45 am
The hypocritical cowards in the Senate have killed any Republican's chance of getting my vote for the foreseeable future.
McConnell's reasoning for his vote was the most hypocritical possible.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by vorlon » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:40 pm

YAG wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:42 pm
Faromir wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:04 am
YAG - I would amend your statement with one added word:
YAG wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:45 am
The hypocritical cowards in the Senate have killed any Republican's chance of getting my vote for the foreseeable future.
McConnell's reasoning for his vote was the most hypocritical possible.
Indeed. Blames Trump for the insurrection but does everything he can to avoid doing anything about it.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by Tirant_Loblanc » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:45 am

It seems the GOP is vulnerable to takeover by anyone who yells at them. I first noticed it with the tea party folks. Be rude, and yell a lot and the party cowers in the corner. Maybe it goes back before that and I missed it.
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Re: The Republican Party is Dead

Post by vorlon » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 pm

Tirant_Loblanc wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:45 am
It seems the GOP is vulnerable to takeover by anyone who yells at them. I first noticed it with the tea party folks. Be rude, and yell a lot and the party cowers in the corner. Maybe it goes back before that and I missed it.
My view is the Republican party has been headed this way for a long time. The tea party movement was an earlier step in the devolution of the party and it began even before that.
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