Dating.... oh well.

[DMLawPro]

What does Match.com and FBI.gov have in common?






I am not wanted on either site....

[ShyDaniel]

I was once wanted on Match.com by a woman named 'Jessica Washington' who had a writing style as if she had a Foreign accent. She was an archaeologist from Columbia, Iowa (?!) and needed to borrow a grand to fly to London to secure her grandfather's estate blah blah blah and I was promised 50 grand in return. The emails back and forth were fun for awhile, until I told them to find another mark.

Beyond that, no, never wanted by anybody on Match.

[BeccaBodhi]

I've never been on Match, I have no idea if I'm wanted of not, LOL!!

[Publisher]

Unrealistic expectations and a real need for thorough background checks.

[DMLawPro]

I've never been on Match, I have no idea if I'm wanted of not, LOL!!

Oh, I want you.... You're hot.....

[The_Carpenter]

Ignoring the LEO joke,

Do the Match or POF thing for the entertainment.

My last run of boredom:
Mostly gals hunting:
A couple p4p in disguise
A few married gals just wanting to play
A few insane civies
Last
A couple halfway sane civies that didn't realize what other types of gals (above) are also on site.

[shyboy69]

Yeah. I'll throw EHarmony in there as well. The only person to ever contact me on Match was by accident.

[supergarth]

Yeah. I'll throw EHarmony in there as well. The only person to ever contact me on Match was by accident.

Hmmm, I need to know. How did they contact you on accident?

[shyboy69]

Yeah. I'll throw EHarmony in there as well. The only person to ever contact me on Match was by accident.

Hmmm, I need to know. How did they contact you on accident?

Apparently she was 1/2 drunk and was trying to contact someone else. And clicked on my profile by mistake. Ended up meeting her for drinks. Fun gal......not very attractive. Funny thing is though, we remain friends today. LOL

[mister64]

Hm, I've never tried eHarmony. Isn't it known generally as a place for wholesome, religious, morally conservative types? I've been on Match and a few other sites just long enough to conclude they're infested with scammers and are at least 99% a waste of time. One I've spent more time on is OKCupid, which was my main focus before joining the Hobby. The ratio of BS and scams seems lower. I like how it lets people express themselves in a more open-ended way than other sites. The main problem I found is that an old geezer like me just gets blocked off from most younger gals who set their age limits lower. So ... nowadays SA is the place for me.

[iowareader79]

I've tried Match twice and got exactly one date out of it. Nice girl, pretty, and we had a lot of the same interests, but we didn't really have any chemistry. Besides, I was right at the end of my payment period so I didn't feel bad about not renewing.

Match having a lot of scammers does make sense now that I think about. Each time I tried, it noticed certain patterns. The first time 50-75% of the single women in my age range were 5'0 to 5'5 and looking for guys 5'10 or taller. If you were shorter (I'm 5'7), they wouldn't even look at you. The second time the same percentage of profiles were women with children who had never been married. Really? Even in this day and age, in the Midwest, most people who have kids get married.

[supergarth]

The second time the same percentage of profiles were women with children who had never been married. Really? Even in this day and age, in the Midwest, most people who have kids get married.

I don’t find that to be the case at all. The “I’m pregnant so I have to get married” sounds like an antiquated idea. But maybe it’s generational.

[supergarth]

Yeah. I'll throw EHarmony in there as well. The only person to ever contact me on Match was by accident.

Hmmm, I need to know. How did they contact you on accident?

Apparently she was 1/2 drunk and was trying to contact someone else. And clicked on my profile by mistake. Ended up meeting her for drinks. Fun gal......not very attractive. Funny thing is though, we remain friends today. LOL

I’m glad it worked out in someway. That’s great you became friends. Lol.

[iowareader79]

The second time the same percentage of profiles were women with children who had never been married. Really? Even in this day and age, in the Midwest, most people who have kids get married.

I don’t find that to be the case at all. The “I’m pregnant so I have to get married” sounds like an antiquated idea. But maybe it’s generational.

I should have said that better. I didn't mean that, but rather most people who have kids are already married or planning to be. In my experience, it's still the norm. At least it is among my friends (and I'm 39 by the way). Just felt weird to see so many of thsoe profiles.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

[shyboy69]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

I totally understand and get it. As a single guy. Some 13 years and 50 lbs ago. I couldn't get a date either.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Ive been single for 9 years. All attempted civ dates are all best behavior until the plans-making bit comes along. Its ALWAYS friggin "Netflix and chill" style. Its never anything like a real attempt at a date. I rather like spending time with people and getting to know them, sharing meals and experiences. Thats why my rates go down for longer dates. Quality over quantity. Some one tweeted out how ironic it is that the most respectful men are those that see escorts and the most disrespectful men are those that only do civ dating. Its frustrating!

[shyboy69]

Atleast, this route, I'm a God between the sheets. Nobody laughs at me. AND I get to be with women way to attractive for ole me!

[The_Carpenter]

... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man.

One of my favs has said similar,
She's late 20s, nice rw job, cute, etc. part-timer.
She takes herself off line when she has a serious guy.
I hear from her usually a couple months later when she dumps whomever's sorry ass it was.
Almost always: Immature, no goals, his job isn't great, thinks he needs his ass kissed, etc.
I consider myself fortunate she calls me.
Being 10 blocks away is quite handy for us.

[beautifulbridgette]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

Do you think a client crossover is possible? I've tried it twice; once was more of a physical thing that was mutually beneficial and the second ended with wounded egos and hurt feelings for both of us. I understand what you mean completely about dating civs , but I'm not sure if someone who met me this way would ever take me seriously in all the other things I have to offer. Have you had any success? Not judging just genuinely curious.

[shyboy69]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

Do you think a client crossover is possible? I've tried it twice; once was more of a physical thing that was mutually beneficial and the second ended with wounded egos and hurt feelings for both of us. I understand what you mean completely about dating civs , but I'm not sure if someone who met me this way would ever take me seriously in all the other things I have to offer. Have you had any success? Not judging just genuinely curious.

Not looking for a civ date. But not everyone would look at you like that. I was raised to see good in everyone. And to see someone for who they are. And not for what they do.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

Do you think a client crossover is possible? I've tried it twice; once was more of a physical thing that was mutually beneficial and the second ended with wounded egos and hurt feelings for both of us. I understand what you mean completely about dating civs , but I'm not sure if someone who met me this way would ever take me seriously in all the other things I have to offer. Have you had any success? Not judging just genuinely curious.

No, I haven't had a client-crossover yet. Most of my suitors are married and I will have no part in breaking up a home. If a marriage doesn't work out, it will have nothing to do with me! A lot of my suitors and I get really really close but there's always a disappointed sigh somewhere when boundaries are reinforced. I would love a client crossover. Im just not going to rush anything. If it happens, hopefully it happens naturally.

[BuxomGinger]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

DITTO! GBN gents have really ruined civ dating for me too. Why did I waste so much time giving my talents away for free to lesser men?! I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’ll never have a “normal” love life. THANKS GBN

[wallaby]

Sometimes clients do crossover.
Saves the need to have "the talk".

[Yuna]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

Do you think a client crossover is possible? I've tried it twice; once was more of a physical thing that was mutually beneficial and the second ended with wounded egos and hurt feelings for both of us. I understand what you mean completely about dating civs , but I'm not sure if someone who met me this way would ever take me seriously in all the other things I have to offer. Have you had any success? Not judging just genuinely curious.

My partner is a client crossover, so I believe that it is possible. I think you need to have absolute trust in one another and very good communication. My partner is poly, so it was easier for him to be OK with my side gig. I think finding someone who can understand that part of you is very difficult though.

[DMLawPro]

What does Match.com and FBI.gov have in common?



I am not wanted on either site....

[DukeOfHazard]

Ive had ZERO luck with dating. Im treated so well by my suitors in terms of respect, honest communication, no head games... this industry has really upped my expectations with civ dates and the bar is far too high for the common man. My only hope for a real partner is a client crossover at this point. Too much fckery going on with the clowns in these towns! Suitors are my favorite people in the world.

Do you think a client crossover is possible? I've tried it twice; once was more of a physical thing that was mutually beneficial and the second ended with wounded egos and hurt feelings for both of us. I understand what you mean completely about dating civs , but I'm not sure if someone who met me this way would ever take me seriously in all the other things I have to offer. Have you had any success? Not judging just genuinely curious.

My partner is a client crossover, so I believe that it is possible. I think you need to have absolute trust in one another and very good communication. My partner is poly, so it was easier for him to be OK with my side gig. I think finding someone who can understand that part of you is very difficult though.

I dated a Contractor and it didn't go well. I don't believe many men could handle it. I was probably a bit to insecure and didn't handle it well. So if you do entertain the thought of crossing over (from a hobbyist perspective) think about it before you go down that road because every insecurity you can think of will surface and it will be miserable for both.

[wallaby]

My partner is a client crossover, so I believe that it is possible. I think you need to have absolute trust in one another and very good communication. My partner is poly, so it was easier for him to be OK with my side gig. I think finding someone who can understand that part of you is very difficult though.

I'm poly by circumstance only, but it is a difficult thing to do.
For me, after a lot of reading, compartmentalizing things as being transactional relationships vs emotional ones made a difference.
But its not easy, and we do still run into issues.

[beautifulbridgette]

What does Match.com and FBI.gov have in common?



I am not wanted on either site....

Was that an attempt to redirect the focus.....?

[DMLawPro]

What does Match.com and FBI.gov have in common?



I am not wanted on either site....

Was that an attempt to redirect the focus.....?

What? Huh? Look Butterflies..... over there -------------->

[Publisher]

Ive been single for 9 years. All attempted civ dates are all best behavior until the plans-making bit comes along. Its ALWAYS friggin "Netflix and chill" style. Its never anything like a real attempt at a date. I rather like spending time with people and getting to know them, sharing meals and experiences. Thats why my rates go down for longer dates. Quality over quantity. Some one tweeted out how ironic it is that the most respectful men are those that see escorts and the most disrespectful men are those that only do civ dating. Its frustrating!

What, a little effort on his part, like planning an evening out, or a excursion to share, exceeds their capacity? Like, maybe ENJOY THE PERSON instead of having your brain sucked into a television as foreplay?

[DMLawPro]

What, a little effort on his part, like planning an evening out, or a excursion to share, exceeds their capacity? Like, maybe ENJOY THE PERSON instead of having your brain sucked into a television as foreplay?

Or try this one. Hey hun (to her), why don't you plan this weekends festivities (said on a Tuesday). Friday rolls around, what do you have planned for us this weekend hun? Oh, I have not thought of anything.

It's a 2 way street......

[The_Carpenter]

The Civie I've started seeing has a full real world schedule as do I.
Thus, we plan a week or so out to do something. Seriously, anything other than staying in.
The amusing thing is that it's like prebooking with a pro for a long dinner date.
The civie has asked if the prebook thing and going out for dinner works for me (with desert after).
I say yes, very well, but I do not tell her where I learned to enjoy it.

[ShyDaniel]

I never understood the "Netflix and Chill" thing. I can do that alone, why do I need somebody next to me to binge on Forensic Files? A date is a chance to actually get out, do something, maybe even....gasp....socialize with others.

[wallaby]

I never understood the "Netflix and Chill" thing. I can do that alone, why do I need somebody next to me to binge on Forensic Files? A date is a chance to actually get out, do something, maybe even....gasp....socialize with others.

You really aren't doing Netflix and chill properly.

[ShyDaniel]

I never understood the "Netflix and Chill" thing. I can do that alone, why do I need somebody next to me to binge on Forensic Files? A date is a chance to actually get out, do something, maybe even....gasp....socialize with others.

You really aren't doing Netflix and chill properly.

My attempt at sarcasm. But really, couldnt "netflix and chill" be done at the end of a normal date?

[The_Carpenter]

My attempt at sarcasm. But really, couldnt "netflix and chill" be done at the end of a normal date?

The end of a normal date includes whipped cream, strawberries, and a nice whiskey

[Rynn]

Stuff

Other stuff

Oh so many opinions, so many views and experiences .. where to start .. I think I just have to wait, cause I just have too much to say .. I could do this personally under the right circumstances, I've met a girl who I would do this with too, I could see a construct under which it would work where neither is monogamous; her due to work and him to prevent jealously or back up of needs .. polyamorous ish.

Sometimes a great feeling in a LTR that's committed is when she has her legs kicked over my lap, and I am handling them with soft caresses and absent minded teases, and we veg out over 'Forensic Files' .. doesn't mean I don't go down on her later until she hits the back of my head saying she can't take anymore and needs D. Netflix and chill is not the same as bang'n'bounce .. and just because you share a passive entertainment experience together doesn't mean you skip real foreplay altogether.

I digress .. I'll comment more later as things coalesce.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Ive been single for 9 years. All attempted civ dates are all best behavior until the plans-making bit comes along. Its ALWAYS friggin "Netflix and chill" style. Its never anything like a real attempt at a date. I rather like spending time with people and getting to know them, sharing meals and experiences. Thats why my rates go down for longer dates. Quality over quantity. Some one tweeted out how ironic it is that the most respectful men are those that see escorts and the most disrespectful men are those that only do civ dating. Its frustrating!

What, a little effort on his part, like planning an evening out, or a excursion to share, exceeds their capacity? Like, maybe ENJOY THE PERSON instead of having your brain sucked into a television as foreplay?

Thats pretty much the nail on the head - I want to be able to sit and talk and enjoy the other person. I dont want to come over to your house at 2am to watch law and order reruns. I want to get know you, not avoid all communication and hope you grope me in the dark. My best dates have been with my suitors. I swear bad civ dates weren't from lack of my trying from my end. Guys just want to stick it and if thats the case, they can pay me XD

I want your time more than your money but if I cant have your time ill take more of your money. tehehehe

[Publisher]

Ive been single for 9 years. All attempted civ dates are all best behavior until the plans-making bit comes along. Its ALWAYS friggin "Netflix and chill" style. Its never anything like a real attempt at a date. I rather like spending time with people and getting to know them, sharing meals and experiences. Thats why my rates go down for longer dates. Quality over quantity. Some one tweeted out how ironic it is that the most respectful men are those that see escorts and the most disrespectful men are those that only do civ dating. Its frustrating!

What, a little effort on his part, like planning an evening out, or a excursion to share, exceeds their capacity? Like, maybe ENJOY THE PERSON instead of having your brain sucked into a television as foreplay?

Thats pretty much the nail on the head - I want to be able to sit and talk and enjoy the other person. I dont want to come over to your house at 2am to watch law and order reruns. I want to get know you, not avoid all communication and hope you grope me in the dark. My best dates have been with my suitors. I swear bad civ dates weren't from lack of my trying from my end. Guys just want to stick it and if thats the case, they can pay me XD

I want your time more than your money but if I cant have your time ill take more of your money. tehehehe

Time I can do.

[shyboy69]

Ive been single for 9 years. All attempted civ dates are all best behavior until the plans-making bit comes along. Its ALWAYS friggin "Netflix and chill" style. Its never anything like a real attempt at a date. I rather like spending time with people and getting to know them, sharing meals and experiences. Thats why my rates go down for longer dates. Quality over quantity. Some one tweeted out how ironic it is that the most respectful men are those that see escorts and the most disrespectful men are those that only do civ dating. Its frustrating!

What, a little effort on his part, like planning an evening out, or a excursion to share, exceeds their capacity? Like, maybe ENJOY THE PERSON instead of having your brain sucked into a television as foreplay?

Thats pretty much the nail on the head - I want to be able to sit and talk and enjoy the other person. I dont want to come over to your house at 2am to watch law and order reruns. I want to get know you, not avoid all communication and hope you grope me in the dark. My best dates have been with my suitors. I swear bad civ dates weren't from lack of my trying from my end. Guys just want to stick it and if thats the case, they can pay me XD

I want your time more than your money but if I cant have your time ill take more of your money. tehehehe

That is funny. Because of me being bashful and raised to respect everyone. I was always accused of sitting on my hands!

[HeatherRileyXO]

can I sit on your face?

[Publisher]

can I sit on your face?

Mine? Yes.

[shyboy69]

can I sit on your face?

Oh Heather. You should know by now. That as long as I have a face, you will always have a warm and welcoming place to sit.

[finman56]

can I sit on your face?

well of course

[scarletknight]

Looks like there are plenty of faces for you to plant yourself on. And you can add mine to the list.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Okay, im sitting on all yalls faces!

[scarletknight]

Okay, im sitting on all yalls faces!

I'm glad that's settled. And that you have plenty of places to settle.

[HeatherRileyXO]

Okay, im sitting on all yalls faces!

I'm glad that's settled. And that you have plenty of places to settle.

I was looking at my lady parts last night before bed. Shes so pretty. We're ready.