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Post by Publisher » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:45 am

Maybe its me, but i hope not JUST me.

When you carefully phrase a question, which i usually do when i seek information, how often does asking the question in an open forum like this one actually elicit responses that are helpful? Or, as is in my experience, less than helpful and generally on either a tangent or unrelated concept?

But I do, sometimes, get an answer.

Perhaps I'm too obtuse, or perhaps using 13 word sentences is too complex. Is the correct use of the Oxford comma truly dead in the era of txtspk?
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Post by The_Carpenter » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:15 pm

Publisher wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:45 am
Maybe its me, but i hope not JUST me.
When you carefully phrase a question, which i usually do when i seek information, how often does asking the question in an open forum like this one actually elicit responses that are helpful?
Rarely, and btw, it's not limited to you or this board, it's everywhere.
IMO basic English fundamentals are no longer successfully taught in our education systems.
One of the reasons I moved on from the education environment a long time ago.
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Or, as is in my experience, less than helpful and generally on either a tangent or unrelated concept?
But I do, sometimes, get an answer.
Sigh, frequently. Everyone is now centered in their own universe to the exclusion of anything else.
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Perhaps I'm too obtuse, or perhaps using 13 word sentences is too complex. Is the correct use of the Oxford comma truly dead in the era of txtspk?
Easy yes on that Pubs.

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Re: Asking questions

Post by YAG » Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:48 pm

Can the average US citizen even READ a 13 word sentence? Let alone comprehend it?
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Re: Asking questions

Post by vorlon » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:28 am

Publisher wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:45 am
Maybe its me, but i hope not JUST me.

When you carefully phrase a question, which i usually do when i seek information, how often does asking the question in an open forum like this one actually elicit responses that are helpful? Or, as is in my experience, less than helpful and generally on either a tangent or unrelated concept?

But I do, sometimes, get an answer.

Perhaps I'm too obtuse, or perhaps using 13 word sentences is too complex. Is the correct use of the Oxford comma truly dead in the era of txtspk?
gramur is hrd!!! :D
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Re: Asking questions

Post by hegone17 » Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:14 pm

YAG wrote:
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Can the average US citizen even READ a 13 word sentence? Let alone comprehend it?
Maybe after I read and reread it 8 more times before comprehension sets in this pea brain

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Post by YAG » Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:40 pm

hegone17 wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:14 pm
YAG wrote:
Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:48 pm
Can the average US citizen even READ a 13 word sentence? Let alone comprehend it?
Maybe after I read and reread it 8 more times before comprehension sets in this pea brain
That's 17 words. Well done.
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Post by YetAnotherHobbist » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:44 am

My native language is spanish, and the "more educated" writing style involved long sentences with many clauses.
When I came to the US for college, they had me take a class in English composition (the dreaded freshman writing seminar).
As I recall it, the #1 goal in that class was to get us to write in short declarative sentences - that was the preferred style for college-level work.
I remember thinking, "really?" - then retraining myself...

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Post by Publisher » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:34 am

I placed out of all of the writing classes at admission except for rhetoric. It was an absolute required class, speaking highly of the political power of that set of professors. The class itself was a snooze-fest.
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Post by The_Carpenter » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am

Publisher wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:34 am
I placed out of all of the writing classes at admission except for rhetoric. It was an absolute required class, speaking highly of the political power of that set of professors. The class itself was a snooze-fest.
I had a logic/philosophy class that was taught by a clueless guy who didn't get a Spock joke 1st day of class. Later several classmates got together and we analyzed the class syllabus which amusingly inferred what was going to be on the mids and final. On midterm and finals we all sat away from each other so he couldn't even think a cheat was happening. I knew the dean of the department and later he asked, bluntly, what happened. I guess even back in the dinosaur age, class grade spikes were looked at. The dean got the Spock joke, pulled the professor's syllabus, and then someone else was teaching that class the following semester.

But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier

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Re: Asking questions

Post by YetAnotherHobbist » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm

The_Carpenter wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am
But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier
Back in the days when one had to write with a quill and ink, and it better be right the first time around? :-p

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Re: Asking questions

Post by vorlon » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:25 pm

YetAnotherHobbist wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm
The_Carpenter wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am
But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier
Back in the days when one had to write with a quill and ink, and it better be right the first time around? :-p
No, he goes way back. He had to use cuneiform. 8)
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Post by The_Carpenter » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:16 pm

vorlon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:25 pm
YetAnotherHobbist wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm
The_Carpenter wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am
But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier
Back in the days when one had to write with a quill and ink, and it better be right the first time around? :-p
No, he goes way back. He had to use cuneiform. 8)
We had to teach the dino-chickens to make foot patterns

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Re: Asking questions

Post by Publisher » Fri May 14, 2021 6:02 am

The_Carpenter wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:16 pm
vorlon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:25 pm
YetAnotherHobbist wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm
The_Carpenter wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am
But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier
Back in the days when one had to write with a quill and ink, and it better be right the first time around? :-p
No, he goes way back. He had to use cuneiform. 8)
We had to teach the dino-chickens to make foot patterns
We directed worms with puffs of ait rolling in mud.
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Post by iowanprimate » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:45 pm

Publisher wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 6:02 am
The_Carpenter wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:16 pm
vorlon wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:25 pm
YetAnotherHobbist wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:14 pm
The_Carpenter wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:01 am
But back to english, I was helping one of my kids with a college term paper, and I swear that exercise was same as I had in 6th or 7th grade a zillion yrs earlier
Back in the days when one had to write with a quill and ink, and it better be right the first time around? :-p
No, he goes way back. He had to use cuneiform. 8)
We had to teach the dino-chickens to make foot patterns
We directed worms with puffs of ait rolling in mud.
You had mud? Lucky bastard...

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